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Here is a four minute clip of Mark Driscoll briefly commenting on the various types of emerging churches.  I know that for many this is old news, but for those who have missed the “conversation” about the Emerging Church that’s been going on over the past decade (there is still some confusion), basically all things “Emergent” is emerging, but not everything that’s “Emerging” is Emergent.  

Peace, 

Roc 

Thanks to Dan over at http://ceruleansanctum.com for the quote below (check out his entire post). 

“Evangelicals are at a junction. They can take the path that will lead them to more futility and ineffective attempts to reform culture through government, or they can embrace the far more powerful methods outlined by the One they claim to follow. By following His example, they will decrease, but He will increase. They will get no credit, but they will see results. If conservative Evangelicals choose obscurity and seek to glorify God, they will get much of what they hope for, but can never achieve, in and through politics.” -Cal Thomas 

Read the Cal Thomas article: Religious Right R.I.P. at  http://www.calthomas.com/index.php?news=2419.

Roc

 

…”Let him begin by treating patriotism…as a part of his religion.  Then let him, under the influence of partisan spirit, come to regard it as the most important part.  Then quietly and gradually nurse him on to the stage at which the religion becomes merely a part of the “cause,” in which Christianity is valued chiefly because of the excellent arguments it can produce…[O]nce he’s made the world an end, and faith a means, you have almost won your man, and it makes very little difference what kind of worldly end he is pursuing.” -Screwtape

The Dems may have won the election, and the GOP may have lost the election, but Christians don’t have to lose our “souls” (for one reason or the other), because we…

“…by faith are foreigners in this land of promise, as in a strange country…looking for a city which has foundations, whose builder and maker is God.” -Hebrews 11:9-10

We-together are foreigners in this world.  “This land is your land, this land is my land” is true in a natural and limited sense.  But the Kingdom is OURS TOGETHER in a sense that no earthly kingdom can ever be.   

In 1922, W.E.B. Dubois, speaking to modern day American Blacks said,

“The two parties have combined against us to nullify our power by a ‘gentleman’s agreement’ of non-recognition, no matter how we vote … May God write us down as asses if ever again we are found putting our trust in either the Republican or the Democratic Parties.” 

The same can now be said of Christians, whether they be Black or White, Yellow or Red, democrat or republican, who misplace their faith in a political party or system.  This does not mean that we cannot rejoice when good prevails, justice is served, or hope is no longer deferred.  Nor does it mean that we are not to seek the good of the land in which we live by using our votes to the best of our ability, no matter how “right or wrong” it is in the eyes of others.  But it does mean that we must learn to live in this world as those who are “In It, but not Of It”. 

Is it possible to be “In the World” of a political party without being “Of It”?  I know some who take the “don’t vote for either candidate” position but who manage to be “Not in It, but still Of It”.  You can usually tell if someone is “In It and Of It” by how badly they treat those who disagree, even those who are their brothers and sisters.  Or by the disrespect they show leaders who are not of their choosing.  All because of the results of a worldly election.  The idea is to be “In It, but not Of It,”  but there are dangers.  There is a danger on the Left if people are encouraged to believe that they can usher in a Utopian Kingdom through a social gospel apart from Christ.  But there is also a real and present danger in fusing conservative republicanism with faith in Jesus Christ.  God will ultimately look at the heart of each individual through the blood stained lens of faith in His Son, and His approval is not, and will not, be based on your voting record but rather your relationship to Him.  Period.  

 I’m reminded of the lyrics from a song (though I can’t remember the title): “Look what you’ve done you politician, you separate brother from brother, like a magician.”  Nothing can separate us from the love of Christ.  But don’t be derailed.  Let’s stay on track.  Don’t let politics separate us from each other.

Still A Resident Alien,

Roc 

 

I know that a couple of weeks ago in my post titled [G]Race and Politics I said that I would start posting on an article from the Reconciliation Blog, but I fell behind due to a new job and schedule.  Though I may touch on some of those issues at a later time, in light of last night’s election I would like to post a link to this post from Anthony Carter.  It speaks redemptively of Obama’s victory, being pro-life, and the providence of God http://epointchurch.org/2008/11/05/poetic-providence/.  Be at peace, for all is well.

Roc

  • What does the McCain/Palin slogan “Country First” suggest to you? 
  • When Sarah Palin says things like, ”[Obama] is not a man who sees America as you and I see America. We see America as a force for good in this world,” what does she mean by “we”?                                                                                                                                                                         These are some of the questions Edward Gilbreath is asking at Reconciliation Blog: http://edwardg.wordpress.com/2008/10/24/race-politics-roundtable-part-2/.  I’ll post my answers over the next two weeks.

Roc

Dan Edelen at Cerulean Sanctum wrote a post today comparing “the worldview differences between Externally Motivated (EM) Christianity and Internally Motivated (IM) Christianity” in relationship to the coming elections.  Will you be disappointed if (when) the “other” guy wins?  How will you respond?  How would “resident aliens” respond, and in whom would they place their hope?  You can check out his post here http://ceruleansanctum.com/2008/10/the-two-christianities-on-display.html.

Roc

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